Other Veterans Era-eligible artists probably deserve it more than her at the moment due to the crowded backlog, but with the wild way the Veterans Era is picked, donât be surprised if she ends up as the 2021 inductee. Crystal Gayle I was a farm kid from south Dakota and we didnât get WSM and the first Circle album opened doors I didnât even know about, Kevin Smith And that’s not to mention the five country-oriented albums Ray Charles released in the 80’s, which resulted in a resurgence in his career, and further hits such as the #1 song “Seven Spanish Angels” with Willie Nelson, and the Top 10 song “We Didn’t See a Thing” with George Jones and Chet Atkins. Leonard Overton Larry Joe Taylor Fest just cancelled today, which means it doesn’t look good for a lot of spring festivals, which may result in the eradication of some of these forever. A great story is that Whitey Shafer wrote that second verse specifically for Whitley. But I also don’t think it would just be performative. Itâs that time of year again to consider who might be in the running for the precious few spots as the newest inductees into the Country Music Hall of Fame. 3:27 pm. March 1, 2021 @ But his name is always in the field for this accolade, and looking at the influence Gram turning on millions of rock and roll fans the importance and coolness of country music, it always should be. Clint Black 8:13 am. March 3, 2021 @ She was the first PERSON (my just woman) to ever win the CMA entertainer of the year award more than once. 1) Modern Era â Eligible for induction 20 years after they first achieve ânational prominence.â 2) Veterans Era â Eligible for induction 40 years after they first achieve ânational prominence.â 3) Non-Performer, Songwriter, and Recording and/or Touring Musician active prior to 1980 â Rotates every 3 years. 9:37 am. Ells Eastwood Do it for Don, so they can get the acclaim they so richly deserve!! They are part of the mortar, nails & wood in the foundation of the Country Music Hall of Fame. June Carter Cash 1. Yeah. Vern Gosdin Earl Thomas Conley deserves to be remembered for the absolute talent that he was, period. Patty Loveless Just too much drama around those two. Corncaster Anderson, Cash, and Gayle are all still waiting. But, it seems like more and more it’s likely to be a pop country pop performer who has EDM, R&B, or Gospel influences but doesn’t seem to be able to bring out their country influences. As for Ray Charles, yeah eventually he will get there i guess due to several factors including his country records , one of which Trig neglected to mention, Two Old Cats Like Us, a duet with him and Hank Jr. Last year was an unusually good year of picks. March 4, 2021 @ Although it should be Dwight, I think it will be The Judds. With the tenuous health of Naomi Judd who suffers from hepatitis, and the resurgence of interest in 80âs country that The Judds were such a significant part of, they would be a smart and timely pick at a time when institutions are looking to put more emphasis on women. However on May 9th, 1989, Keith Whitley died of what was ruled as alcohol poisoning, and never got to reap the rewards of the career heâd worked to build. Jerry Leeâs name has been rumored to have been in contention and on final ballots for many years. PaulPierce That will count against them. But it does seem like the folks who lobby for it, often get it. In 1988, Whitley had two #1 singles âWhen You Say Nothing At Allâ and âIâm No Stranger to the Rainâ off the album Donât Close Your Eyes, and was expected to become a superstar in country music in the coming years. 10:31 am. TXMUSICJIM Public consciousness alone on it is significantly higher. Most people were shocked that many of the artists listed had not yet been awarded the highest honor in Country Music. Two great country singers never mentioned are Carl Butler and Cowboy Copas. No, he didn’t get luck but he still felt like a king. March 4, 2021 @ March 4, 2021 @ Pamela Dahl Clint Black Larry Gatlin & The Gatlin Brothers âWith 33 Top 40 singles and 15 Top 5’s and three 1’s, Larry Gatlin likely accrued the numbers throughout the 70âs and the 80âs to be a Hall of Fame contender, not to speak of the influence he wielded in country music through that period, both as a solo artist, and with brothers Steve and Rudy. Discuss the latest iTunes, Billboard 200, Hot 100, and Hits Daily Double charts here. But also bolstering Larry Gatlin’s case is heâs also one of these âmen about townâ types that seems to be at every function and gala in the country music realm, is active in the community, and is willing to help keep the legacy of country music alive, which the Hall of Fame selection committee often rewards. Don Amber Dwightâs also not showing any signs of slowing down, and has earned additional stripes as a country music ambassador through his acting career. The story also goes that Whitley sang the song at Lefty Frizzell’s (the original singer & Whitley’s idol) grave on the way to the recording studio to cut the song. 10:13 am. Trigger CeeCeeBee It has set up an online petition and is asking Keith Whitley fans to add their voices and signatures in support of the effort. 5. I see the CMHOF as a back-slapping business organization that is mainly out to take care of its own. Michael Bruce Who will win the Latin categories at the 2021 Grammys? Your email address will not be published. The duo also gets extra consideration due to Wynonnaâs successful solo career. Yoakamâs greatest contribution beyond the gaudy sales numbers comes in the influence he had in country music in his time, and that he still wields today over generations of performers. Also the words “national prominence” were added to keep some out, as the CMA will define that term. I understand the Hall of Fame’s desire to keep things reverent, and I appreciate that. March 2, 2021 @ Chesneyâs sold 30 million albums and had 30 Top 10 singles. My thoughts exactly as I was reading the article. 12:44 pm. Mickey Raphael â May be a little young for this distinction yet, but he will be in some day. Kevin Smith Iâve made an annual comment for years about NGDB. The Dixie Chicks may be too controversial for induction and what other band, besides Alabama really deserves the honor? March 1, 2021 @ He was also a last resort to go to prom with the queen – all thanks to an ex-boyfriend who broke her heart that week. 13. Jerry Lee Lewis is the last man standing from the Million Dollar Quartet, and is now 85-years-old. 28. March 5, 2021 @ 2:20 pm. Awards Circuit Winners Chart (2020-2021) 2021 Awards Season Calendar. 9:04 am. The simple truth is that with these two performerâs shady pastsâespecially in the current political climateâHall of Fame induction is going to be difficult. They need more than one name in each category just to catch up or many very deserving people will never get the recognition they deserve. And why not consider Tritt, with two Grammys, four CMAs, five #1 singles, and 19 Top 10âs. March 2, 2021 @ Oh, trust me. His two Modern Sounds in Country Music volumes in the early 60’s not only made pop hits and standards out of songs like “You Don’t Know Me” and “You Are My Sunshine,” they turned millions on to the beauty and importance of country music. And Rose Maddox was one of the very first successful women in country music, and opened up the role of women as country entertainers for generations to come.If groups like The Jordanaires and The Sons of the Pioneers are in The Hall, certainly The Maddox Brothers & Rose should be. 11:15 am, Please add Howard & David Bellamy also known as Bellamy Brothers. A solid career as a recording artist but also a great guitar player and as you mentioned, an all around nice guy who is friendly with a lot of people in Nashville. 4. Mac Wiseman was her frontman and Guitar player. Johnny Paycheck and David Allan Coe: These names come up every year from hard country fans, and are names regularly held up as evidence of the Hall of Fameâs illegitimacy. Gram Parsons: Gramâs inclusion in Hall of Fame consideration is always a topic of great discussion. 2:37 pm, I cant believe the nitty gritty dirt band isnt in, such a great band with a great history and longevity, not to mention all the hits, Kevin Smith The Maddox Brothers & Rose: The Maddox Brothers & Rose set the very foundations for both The Bakersfield Sound, and California Country at large that would become wildly influential in the future. Your email address will not be published. Crystal Gayle Don Rich or Ralph Mooney would be excellent choices for the Musician category. I cannot understand why Janie Fricke is not in the HOF. I feel like some folks treat the Hall of Fame and Grand Ole Opry like they’re these horrible institutions without any context. 15. Now would be a good time to consider him for the Hall of Fame. ⢠Last Yearâs Inductee: Hank Williams Jr. ⢠Saving Country Music Prediction: Jerry Lee Lewis, Linda Ronstadt, Ray Charles, or The Stanley Brothers, ⢠Saving Country Musicâs Final Ballot: The Maddox Brothers & Rose, Jerry Lee Lewis, Linda Ronstadt, Ray Charles. Dwight Yoakam. Well, the Country Music Hall of Fame has to be the most stringent Hall of Fame in all of American culture to get into. It is a shame. 3:27 pm, trevistrat March 2, 2021 @ The 2020 inductees have also still not received their Medallion Ceremony, which is the formal Hall of Fame induction. Where is the Texas music? Matsfan/Jatsfan 29. Click here to remove banner ads from this forum. Now that ive made furious. For one, as Dolly says at the beginning of THE SOUND OF MY VOICE, Linda could literally sing anything; and that included, but was never going to be strictly limited to, Country. So I created my own fictional CMHOF to test out my question. Linda Ronstadt: Of course it could be easy to cast off Linda Ronstadt as a legitimate candidate for being a country artist who eventually crossed over into pop and rock. He was the ONLY country artist to EVER appear on Soul Train. March 2, 2021 @ 6. If I had to name one I would say the Stanley brothers. 14. Hands down. Eck Robertson I don’t like the limiting thing as a way to justify keeping some out. As always, a wonderful job with the names you have listed and your thoughts. March 1, 2021 @ “Grampyre” is a derogatory term used by folks such as yourself, referring to the caper surrounding Parsons’ death, which I prefer to consider a tragedy similar to Hank’s last trip to Canton. Video didnât kill the radio guy. Man, I’m looking forward to this. 10:34 am. 3:14 pm. Yes, Lucinda Williams and John Prine as well. At this point the backlog is so pronounced, the 20 year rule is pretty much irrelevant. I believe that there are enough backed-up names that the hall could do one or two catch-up years and still have enough names to skip over the bro-country era like it was steroids in baseball. Number 6 people are charming and magnetic when it ⦠Its a shame how he has been passed over. He was such a talented singer/songwriter. And Mickey Gilley owned a Nightvlub- Gilley’s that was the Star attention Center for Movie-Urban Cowboy. A seminal figure in the emergence of bluegrass in both the original era, and during its second wind after the success of O Brother Where Art Thou, Ralph Stanley and his brother Carter are the type of influencers and ambassadors the Hall of Fame rotunda was built for. Her career bloomed right around the same time that Lorettaâs, Dollyâs and Tammyâs did, and all three of them are in, and so hopefully Lynn will be inducted soon, as well. Johnny Horton I could go on and on, but I’ll leave it there. Absolutely not. It’s a bit of a shame that she’s been forgotten about in the recent resurgence of older artists, but she clearly wanted to retire early and move on with her private life; when you’ve achieved everything one could hope and you feel satisfied with it, who can blame her? 5. Veterans Wilma Lee & Stoney Cooper March 4, 2021 @ Only one of these will get in. I think a strong case can be made for Ray. DJ Back in the Day Di Harris She has been passed many times. Simply the finest Bluegrass group . You are one of the best! As you pointed out, above, we didn’t have him very long. 4:50 pm. I agree with Trig to start with Paycheck. So many names in the veterans category that you would think they are already in. I don’t think Whitley deserves to go in because of his shirt career and I feel the same way about the Judds. Rosanne Cash Thanks for the update, Jimmy. â Don Rich, Ralph Mooney, Saving Country Musicâs Final Ballot â Don Rich, Ralph Mooney, Redd Volkaert, Lloyd Green, W.S. March 2, 2021 @ King Honky Of Crackershire How did Brenda Lee EVER get into the CMHF. March 1, 2021 @ 7:11 pm. But few paid their dues as much as Linda did early in her career, including her years in the Stone Poneys, her debut solo album in 1969, Hand Sownâ¦Home Grown, 1970âs Silk Purse that included cover songs of âLovesick Bluesâ and âMental Revenge,â and her 1972 self-titled album where she recorded âCrazy Armsâ and âI Fall To Pieces.â Even when she achieved her breakout pop rock success, Linda Ronstadt was always honest about the genre and approach of her music, and then returned to country in the groundbreaking âTrioâ project with Dolly Parton and Emmylou Harris.With the recent biopic released on her life in 2019 and Kennedy Center Honors recognition, Linda Ronstadt is seeing a resurgence of interest in her career. They are awesome an celebrated 45 years. Didn’t he play on over 1000 top ten hits? 5:54 pm. Get ready for a reality where Kenny is a serious contender for Hall of Fame every year, and in a close field, donât be surprised if heâs 2021âs pick. March 2, 2021 @ Pull up in the parking lot and imagine all those legends walking in and out of that place back in the day. The “big shots” don’t appreciate the public telling them what to do even though they clear don’t have a clue what to do and who deserves it at times. March 1, 2021 @ Except for marriage, the native will achieve success in all fields. Musician: Don Rich, Ralph Mooney or Buck Trent. But her early days and her early music and her hard work on her shows set the standard for the generations of Entertainers (male and female) that came after her. They inducted a bunch of people for reasons other than their contributions to C(c)ountry music, and in doing so, left several people out that shouldâve gotten in years ago. Required fields are marked *, Notify me of follow-up comments via e-mail. 3:06 pm. I’m No Stranger to the Rain went #1 in April 1989 & he had 2 more #1s posthumously in 1989. Shouldn’t guys like Tracy Lawrence and Mark Chesnutt be eligible if Chesney is? There are many that are deserving but none that accomplished what ETC did! Ralph Stanley What better time than to feature these important figures in country music history than with an induction. Of the 3000+ people who followed me, The Carter Sisters and Mother Maybelle and Keith Whitley recieved the most attention and support. If they want to put Linda in after that, they can. 11:44 am. And yes, the entire alt country movement (don’t need to provide names, everyone here knows them) owes a direct lineage to Gram’s work, an astounding amount for dying by age 26 (and please no hypocrisy there (Hank, Jones… a long list, probably half of the HOF). I appreciate your passion, i do. My guesses are Tanya Tucker, Linda Ronstadt and Don Rich. March 4, 2021 @ But make no mistake, it’s coming, and likely sooner than later. My own point of view is he was a talented young man who came out of the Harvard elite and fell in with the cool kid counter culturalists in California and had a naive but sincere interest in country music, but was ultimately a victim of his own excessive and wreckless behavior. 3:17 pm. Would really love to see good guy and superstar Steve Wariner get in. I think you have to look at the biggest names of the era, awards yes, but also touring and radio. March 1, 2021 @ At one time he was everywhere. I haven’t seen any of the entertainers named having a ‘bad name.’ This is just ridiculous. Barbara Mandrell was a legend long before she had mainstream success with her TV show. The United States has been subjected to pandemics and epidemics throughout its history, including the 1918 Spanish flu which had an estimated death toll of 550,000, the 1957 Asian flu which had an estimated death toll of 70,000 deaths, and the 1968 Hong Kong flu which had an estimated death toll of 100,000. Judds Not meant as a brutal insult. 9. If Garth Brooks and Alan Jackson didn’t get in during their 1st year of eligibility, nobody will. Gram Parsons, well, it’s a crime that he isn’t, but I don’t expect that to be rectified any time soon. With the large amount of country legends who passed away in 2020, this is an important rule to take into account. Many good names listed. 6:13 pm, My choices : ð Gram Parson IT’S WAY PAST TIME! 3. Ray Charles has the stats, and helps with the bad look country music has had in terms of race issues, but he has already passed on so he can wait one year. These are singers I was able to add: Alison Krauss A secret committee commissioned by the CMA is going over their final ballots and whittling down the names to the few who will make it into one of country music’s most hallowed institutions. At the least he should be inducted as a musician. She set the standard for country cross-over artists, had won ever major award including a Grammy, ACM, CMA, AMA awards. March 1, 2021 @ Remember “Pop a Top”. Here’s hoping for Lynn, Skeeter, Tanya, Jerry Lee, Wanda, Steve, Dwight, Crystal Gayle, or Johnny Horton. 5:11 pm, I’m sure they’ll bend the rules for Luke Combs in some way ð, Claim that in 2001, when he was 11 years old, he came to prominence by being a third-string dreamer on a second-place little league team. And with so many good and eligible names especially in the Modern Era category, don’t be surprised if this is where it comes from. I donât know about The Judds. As Tanya tucker said, bring flowers while theyâre living. Dwight Yoakam, too. 1:28 pm. “but right now it also feels as if theyâve created a backlog.”. Also a vinyl guy, and im familiar with most of his work. But few left to disseminate fact. He started a Scholarship program in Ohio that he sponsored for 25+ years with a concert (inviting a variety of country music artists to appear) and a golf tournament. Lulu Belle & Scotty A group named âInduct Keith Whitley into The Country Music Hall of Fameâ has started a campaign to try and get the Kentucky-born singer and songwriter who died tragically in 1989 into country musicâs most elite class. Do we really see Tracy Lawrence getting in before Dwight Yoakam, Tanya Tucker, Kenny Chesney, and Shania Twain? Not myth, fact. Clearly there is a huge backlog when it comes to the Country Music Hall of Fame when they only induct three acts on average in any given year (even the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inducts five in the performers’ categories, and a few more in others); and that many who have yet to be inducted, all of them legends in their own unique ways, are no longer alive to get the honor. And in terms of the real CMHOF, I struggle to see a situation where she gets in there while still alive. Dwight Yoakam Something to always consider when talking about the Hall of Fame is proximity to voters. Now, change my mind…. March 1, 2021 @ Larry Gatlin is a name that is hard to forget, and rumors have had his name on the final ballot over the last couple of years. But they’re also taking away a huge opportunity to promote themselves, and promote artists and country music by proxy. Nicely said. Random Notes With the huge oversight of Hank Williams Jr. finally being inducted in 2020, it throws the always hard-to-predict field for Veterans wide open. ⢠Last Yearâs Modern Era Inductee: Marty Stuart. Modern – Clint Black, Patty Loveless, The Judds, Steve Wariner and Keith Whitley or Dwight Yoakam. Nat Stuckey was a great recording artist,. Linda Ronstadt Travis Tritt â Now that two of his brethren from the âClass of â89â are in (Garth Brooks and Alan Jackson), as well as his “No Hat” buddy in Marty Stuart, Travis Tritt will start to be much more heavily considered in the next few years. Its ok..full disclosure, im a Gram fan of sorts. What kind of country music radio did the voters listen to in the last 70 years?? Skeeter Davis No Wilburn Brothers….No Loretta or Patty Loveless 6:26 pm. March 1, 2021 @ Born 1933, died 1988. There were few producers in the 70s and 80s who were as prolific as he was. Clearly, for induction into HOF there should be a determining criteria. The Bailes Brothers wrote Kitty Wells bit “Dust on the Bible”. Dwight Yoakam made country music cool to millions, just like Hall of Famer Buck Owens and other Bakersfield legends did in their time. But it also keeps the Hall of Fame honor exclusive and distinguished. March 2, 2021 @ There is also a strong push by many to get him in. Garth Brooks specifically named Whitley as someone he believed should have been inducted before him. I am a fan of Linda as well, but she is a tough sell to voters. 3) Anne has 23 top ten songs on the U.S. charts. March 6, 2021 @ 3. CeeCeeBee Topics: 8,658 Posts: 478,929 Last Post: Grammys 2021 Thread (info, predictions, nominations, wins) She was a master musician. None of your poorly written response qualifies for more…, Kevin Smith Plus, as you point out, Wynonna is a controversial figure. Shania Twain – Make no mistake about it, Shania Twain will be in the Country Music Hall of Fame some day. Tyler Pappas M.A., Music Performance, Cologne University of Music B.A., Vocal Performance, Eastman School of Music Kenneth Beare is an English as a Second Language (ESL) teacher and course developer with over three decades of teaching experience. March 2, 2021 @ I’m guessing Eddie Rabbitt doesn’t stand a chance but I think he should be inducted. If there weren’t many other deserving performers I could cede the argument but there are. But he was from a wealthy family and had a trust fund. Awards Circuit Winners Chart: Chloe Zhao Surpasses 40 Wins for Best Director There's a long road to the Oscars. But his contributions as one of country musicâs preeminent piano players cannot be overstated. Where is Emmylou Harris in all this, Hall of Fame-wise? Ive been absorbing and reading about these subjects for years. 6:49 am. March 1, 2021 @ Keith Whitley Saying that thereâs a backlog of inductees is a mischaracterization of reality. The way the Hall of Fame voting works is there’s a final ballot with a few names in each category that gets whittled down to one. He is one of the artists that exposed me to good country music. March 1, 2021 @ Cheers, Will James I don’t even know if he will ever be discussed at any point, I just know that he has played with some pretty big names. There are tiers to any hall of fame. Secondly, Linda’s approach to country music was more left-of-center, respectful of its traditional musical spirit (as shown by her TRIO collaborations with Dolly and Emmylou) but making those traditions relevant to her own generation. Mickey Gilley Modern era, any on Triggers prediction list are good in my book. It is like letting a carpetbagger marry your daughter. Ive been listening to him for years. Its standing today. March 1, 2021 @ One of the longest and biggest oversights has been Johnny Horton who was a Nashville outsider and left this world too soon. March 6, 2021 @ He was 33-years-old. And it would be great to see happen while the final memberâthe 97-year-old Don Maddox, who was the comedian and fiddler for the bandâis still around. March 2, 2021 @ Gid Tanner & The Skillet Lickers Also, with a new Dave Cobb-produced album on the way—Tritt’s first original album in 14 years—it would make for a good reason for a publicity push to try and put him in. 8:01 am. Just getting in to serve a narrative or outside cause is wrong. 8:08 am. You donât have the west coast California country sound without them. Please Login or Register. 25. 17. Plus, she was a heavy smoker and she had vocal chords problems. Music Streaming Displaces Radio. 2) Anne has 9 number one songs on the U.S. country charts. Will James Their time has come & gone when many of these other artists can wait. His harmonica is one of the most immediately-identifiable sounds in country music, and he is incredibly prolific, regularly performing on the records of some of country music’s newest independent artists. Gail Ulrich Does Bob Moore or Anita Kerr have a chance for the musician? 9. Granted, I do not know much about Barbara’s heyday beyond her hit singles and the TV variety show, so maybe her impact was so monumental that it warranted an early induction? Redd Volkaert â A living legend who is still making faces smile, he was seminal to the sound of Merle Haggard and many others, and still regularly engages in session work and live performance. His biggest contribution was the Sweetheart of The Rodeo Album, which did inspire the early Country Rock movement. Gail Ulrich 7:34 pm. Then there was that breakout song, something about a dude named Bojangles…. 8:04 am. March 1, 2021 @ 141 Comments. I have loved him and his music since I was a kid. 8. The ones whoâve done the most harm to it, are the ones it celebrates most. Taylor Swift had the year's best album in summertime surprise "Folklore," a wistful and understated return to form after the boldface-pop grab bags ⦠Will James Standards. 7:50 pm. March 3, 2021 @ March 1, 2021 @ Travis Tritt helped put the drive into country, both sonically and commercially. He was the first inductee ever into the Country Music Hall of Fame. He was the FIRST artist in ANY genre to have 4 #1 hits from one album. March 4, 2021 @ Best comment Honky! The Country Music Hall of Fame is horrible at promoting its process in a way that engages the public. 7. Tyler Pappas Jeannie Seely Will James Music forum community focusing on chart music with fan forums and entertainment discussion. Oooof. The killer jerry lee lewis should already be in let’s hope he gets in this year. See the facebook page, Earl Thomas Conley Hall of Fame Petition, Ernie Mullins Without Circle Iâd have never heard of Vassar, Doc , Merle, Earl, Maybelle etc. As for the Modern Era category, Dwight Yoakam deserves a place in the Hall though it might not be this year or next year. 11. Inducted 2008. And we can’t even seriously consider women who MIGHT deserve recognition (Fricke, Murray, Loveless, etc). This is where Steve Earle, Rodney Crowell, Lyle Lovett and Nancy Griffith would fit, too. Why is Jeannie Sealy not in the Hall of Fame? Just know you arent the only one who researches music. 24. This is to avoid sympathy votes in the aftermath of an artist dying. None of Grams albums, GP or Return of The Grievous Angel registered even a blip in the world of country radio. One of the problems is that you never know for sure what category an artist could be placed in. With over 100 million records sold, she is the best-selling female country artist of all time, and one of the best selling music artists in all of music, period. I believe that travis tritt and dwight yoakam should already be in but I’ll never think those guys are the equivalent of merle haggard or george jones but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be in. March 2, 2021 @ But there also a couple of very worthy men whose names have been rumored to be considered over the last couple of years, chiefly Keith Whitley. Jerry Lee Lewis I think it’s too early too tell for Luke Combs, Jon Pardi and Ashley McBryde. But it wasnât meant to be, and it may be many years before it is, especially with the current backlog in the Veterans Era. ISB was not a well known album at the time. Sweethearts of the Rodeo (Byrds) is one of the all-time great country records. Two examples I have seen this year are Tanya Tucker and Steve Wariner. Same with a guy like ray charles. Earl Thomas Conley The Country Music Hall of Fame is just like “Here they are.” Also, since the Medallion Ceremony is private, we don’t get to engage with that at all.